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“It must always be remembered how cost-effectiveness works in the public sector: the cost IS the benefit.” - author unknown
Vancouver bureaucrats leave out crucial information to promote high density project with tax exemptions.
One frequent technique that bureaucrats use is to leave out the downside of their
desired projects.
Here is one example of looking at all the incomes generated by a
project (a multistory apartment building) while LEAVING OUT THE COSTS. The packet
distributed to the public (presumable also to the city council) contained a spreadsheet
showing several options and the financial implications of each one. We gave it a
cursory look and noticed there were no costs of city services included. So we asked
and were told that “No analysis was done”. See below.
—–––––- This is the ensuing
email exchange: (pdf) (yellow highlight added) —–––—–––-
Mr. Karlock--
I heard back from Paul Lewis. See below. I double checked with Lloyd Tyler, the Finance Director who confirmed that he did no
analysis either.
From: Paul Lewis [mailto:lewispn@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:01 PM
To: Boger, Brent
Subject: RE: Public Document request
Hi Brent
No analysis was done. I thought we put that in the transmittal. You can check with Lloyd on any response he might want to
make. My response is isolating the marginal cost of services to a specific development are difficult at best.
Let me know if you want more from me.
Paul
Paul Lewis
360.904.1352
From: Boger, Brent [mailto:Brent.Boger@cityofvancouver.us]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:58 AM
To: 'Paul Lewis'
Subject: FW: Public Document request
From: Jim Karlock [mailto:jkarlock@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:23 AM
To: Boger, Brent
Subject: Public Document request
You recently sent me documents relating to the property tax abatement. However, I was unable to find any analysis of
the costs of government services to this property under the various scenarios analyzed?
Please supply a copy of any such analysis that was done.
Thanks
JK
At 03:25 PM 9/29/2011, you wrote:
Mr. Karlock:
Attached please find documents that respond to your public records request dated September 2, 2011. Earlier we had
responded with a time estimate and a subsequent response indicating we would respond by tomorrow.
You requested that we respond by e-mail. Please let us know that you have received this and were able to access the
attachments.
A description of the documents and how they relate to your request is provided below. Note that some of the detailed
data in our files involves information the applicant has identified as proprietary. We are withholding these documents
(approximately nine pages) based upon an exemption found at Revised Code of Washington 42.56.270(4)
To: 'Jim Karlock' <jkarlock@gmail.com>
Subject: FW: Public Document request
The following financial, commercial, and proprietary information is exempt from disclosure under this chapter:
….
(4) Financial and commercial information and records supplied by businesses or individuals during application for loans or program services
provided by chapters 43.325, 43.163, 43.160, 43.330, and 43.168 RCW, or during application for economic development loans or program
services provided by any local agency;
The documents contain information concerning planned rents, costs, and other financial data for the applicant’s
development proposal. We believe that this information was supplied pursuant to an application for economic
development program services provided by the City of Vancouver, a local agency. Accordingly, subsection 4 exempts
these materials from disclosure. The applicant has informed the City that his competitors could use the information
contained in these documents for pricing and unfair competition.
As a further basis to decline to release such documents, RCW 42.56.230(3)(b) exempts certain tax information offered
for tax assessment purposes:
(3) Information required of any taxpayer in connection with the assessment or collection of any tax if the disclosure of the information to other
persons would: (a) Be prohibited to such persons by RCW 84.08.210, 82.32.330, 84.40.020, 84.40.340, or any ordinance authorized under
RCW 35.102.145; or (b) violate the taxpayer's right to privacy or result in unfair competitive disadvantage to the taxpayer;
Accordingly, the nine pages of documents are not included with this response based on RCW 42.56.270(4), RCW
42.56.230(3)(b), and because the documents contain trade secrets and are proprietary.
We are providing you with the remainder of the documents in the City’s files responsive to your request. These
documents responsive to your questions include:
Q1a: Spreadsheets showing the estimated sales tax, property tax and utility tax revenues for the base case
(existing development) and the proposed development with the multi-family property tax exemption. A summary
worksheet and backup worksheets for each tax source are included for the proposed development with the
exemption.
Q1b: A spreadsheet showing the estimated tax revenue by jurisdiction for the scenario that included a
development built in 2016 without the multi-family property tax exemption.
Q1c: Presentations to the City Center Redevelopment Authority that include the assumptions and analysis related
to the developer’s cash flow, ability to get financing and estimated internal rate of return. The June 16, 2011
presentation identifies key assumptions on slides 17-20, the estimated developer return is shown on slide 27 and
the results of the financing analysis is shown on slides 28 and 29. Slide 6 on the July 21, 2011 presentation
presents additional information on the estimated developer return.
Q2: The analysis did not include the cost of government services. It only looked at the revenues generated by the
potential development.
Q3: The presentations provided in response to 1c above, the staff report (cited in your information request) and
the City Council’s discussion (minutes available through the City’s web site and video available through
CVTV’s web page) identify other factors considered in the assessment of the application for the multi-family
property tax exemption. The July 18 and August 15 Council presentations are provided.
Q4: See the bottom of page 2 in the spreadsheet provided in response to 1a above for the estimated total amount
of tax exempted by year for the proposed development.
The documents are attached as PDF documents to this e-mail.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Sinerely,
Brent D. Boger
Assistant City Attorney
City of Vancouver
P.O. Box 1995
Vancouver, WA 98668-1995
Phone: 360-487-8500
Fax: 360-487-8501
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